Dean Graziosi Book

i need help

i am a newbie to all of this.i have read deans book and i dont know where to start.i have bad credit no money and i really want to do this! does anyone have any suggestions for me???thanks

bad credit, no money, no problem

ClaytonS's picture

wholesale. you don't need money to find houses that people want to buy. find the buyers, know what houses they want, find the houses, negotiate a great deal on them, get them under contract, present them to your buyers. too easy right.

Wow, What a loaded question. We are all here to help

lisa.blair.hathaway.author's picture

It sounds as if IMMEDIATE CASH is your IMMEDIATE GOAL. Wholesaling is definitely the way to go.

The first thing you do is get a "ugly" property under contract for 30% to 50% of it's Fair Market Value from a MOTIVATED SELLER.

From there you can IMMEDIATELY ASSIGN that property to another buyer at a price that is still a sweet deal for the buyer and you get the cash difference;

OR... You can REHAB It Yourself then Sell, yet this to me is Clearly not so immediate in producing profit and depends on what skills you have a mastery in.

OR... If getting IMMEDIATE CASH today IS NOT FAST ENOUGH and you needed income YESTERDAY, then by all means BIRD DOG Properties for other wholesalers so that you are sure you are eating, your lights are on, your rent is paid, etc. Someone correct me if I am wrong, Bird Dogging does not mean you have to have a property under assignment, simply that IF The "PROPERTY YOU RECOMMEND" to a Wholesaler actually gets bought, you get a pre-determined finders fee.

As far as you being broke, no credit, bad credit, etc. does not make this process any different. Rich People use OPM "Other People's Money" based on PRINCIPLE ALONE. The difference is they are not starving. THEIR EDGE is that they have money and won't use it. YOUR EDGE is your life literally depend on you making every deal a successful one.

Key Point to remember, Sign your PURCHASE CONTRACTS with:
your name and/or assigns

Others will have ideas also. Go for the ones that hit home for you.

Big PS... I am recommending BIRD DOGGING to get you on your feet not long term. You can also do both BIRD DOG AND WHOLESALE depending on how much cash you must have to live, breathe and have a roof over your head while you prosper and master this stuff.

Also, take steps even if they are tiny ones.
Lisa

Comment/Question

albert1camacho's picture

I'm in the same boat as this person who has no money nad/or experience in this realm. How do you find people to "bird dog" for? Run an add in the paper? Please help! I'm completely new to this. It's my first night.

Al

HELP! I'm Completely New.

albert1camacho's picture

This is my first day and the aprehension is PARALYZING!! Can anyone offer any good advice?
Where do I begin finding people to "bird dog" for...the local paper??

Dive In

lisa.blair.hathaway.author's picture

Dean's information got you this far and since you are now here participating & raring to go, It's clear that more information will take you the rest of the way. More and More information will bring you peace, clarity, calm, zeal, enthusiasm and of course prosperity.

If you search "Birddog" or "Birddogging Real Estate" on google.com countless pages surface for you to read through and locate the people that intrigue you enough to birddog for. ALSO, On this site, in the upper left hand corner of every page is a "Search/Enter" box to enter specifically what you most want to get clear on. Enter "Birddog" and read all you can.

We all come from different start points and yet we all dove in... through reading, researching, participating, reading more.

Most of all, as investors we are literally answering peoples prayers. That is a gift in itself, and we are being paid well for it.

Shine on, Lisa

Birddog

Lisa,
I am in a very bad situation. I live in the heart of Murrieta, ca. I spent every ounce of money on this academy which i just joined because their is no work here and properties depreciated. I'm not too knowledgable nor do i know any people. Its pretty pitiful, having problems concentrating on top of it. I will be living with my parents in 2 weeks and they are in Oxnard, Ca. Today, I got the nerve to talk with a realtor (I need to brush up on my communication skills)after feeling like a fool because i didn't know how or why etc..she told me birddogging is referring a buyer setting up a contract and they (agents) would give you like $30-50 bucks. I almost had a heart attack. I know that is wrong..I have had nothing but bad luck here. Now that my credit is extended from me buying this..no job..I have to make it work like within 2 weeks. I am so screwed. You guys don't live in this area. It's the worst. Please please give me some guidance. I know I'm asking alot, any suggestion would be nice.
Sandra

no money or credit

greg murphy's picture

hey lisa i have had the same problems in my life what i would do lease opt. or in your sit. sandwitch lease all that means is buy it on contract and sale it on contract if you do it right you don,t need any money and you the same results as wholesaling you make money upfront ,while your holing it and then when you sale it , it great you get paid 3 ways and the best part is if you do it right it is risk free you cannot beat that

I know people who love Sandwich Leases

lisa.blair.hathaway.author's picture

Hi Greg...

Great recommendation. I have not done a Sandwich Lease. A Sandwich Lease is a great way for sellers to get full price for their house and yet sell it to buyers without interest on loan, Is this correct. It helps the seller taxwise as well to not get all the money in one lump sum.

I am sure there are different ways to do a Sandwich Lease. I will have to brush up on them. Hey you guys, come correct me in this post if I am wrong.

Lisa

Hi Sandra;

djdebrill's picture

First of all, let me tell you that getting on this site was the best "First step" you could've taken!! I haven't done a single deal yet, but I used to be in the very spot you're in now!!!
First things first: YOU GOT TO GET YOUR MIND GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION! You won't be able to do nothing with all this vast wealth of information if you already believe you're doomed! You're mind is the key to changing your whole situation around! First, you've got to THINK that you have now joined the ranks of being a REAL ESTATE INVESTOR!!!! You have a business now and you've got to work it as such! You attract whatever it is that you need to be successful by just pondering on what you desire!!! PLEASE go to the website: www.thesecret.tv and buy a "single viewing" of the documentary called "The Secret" (it's $4.95)...then soak as much of it as you can in! Because your life is simply what you attract to it and believe me when I tell you....YOU'RE OWN MINDSET CAN KEEP YOU FROM DOING SOME PRETTY AMAZING THINGS!
Second: Call the coaches at the academy! When you read the book and the reports of people who were in your situation or worse and have prospered, it gives you a sense of hope and encouragement. You can do it! Give yourself a chance!!!

Deals don't have to be where you live

bluesummerventures's picture

Sandra,
I live in Irvine area where the properties are very high. I know what you are saying. But there are deals out there. You just need to look hard. What I am doing is selling foreclosures in 25 states in which I don't live in. My partner I am working with buys bulk in 25 states. And I help sell them. These have 40%-70% equity in them. You will learn that many seasoned investors don't care where the properties are. You show them they can make money and they will buy. Email me directly at bluesummerventures@ and I can give you more details. We can even meet if you are willing to drive to the Irvine area. We are all here to help you.
Rick

My Recommendation is "Forget that Realtor"

lisa.blair.hathaway.author's picture

Wow, 30. to 50. Dollars per ugly house is a rip off unless you are only pointing to a house and they pay you immediately for the "point" whether or not they buy the house. My research tells me that BirdDogs get 500. to 5,000. per Bird Dogged House if that house is something they were successful in purchasing as a wholesale. I hear 1,000. is typical. I'm not Dean, he would know best. I would hesitate to work with Realtors as a bird dog unless you find the right one. Not all Realtors are appreciative for your diving into their territory without a license, etc.

My recommendation is "find another realtor" or forget working with Realtors. I looked up your location on google maps, "Murrieta, Ca". Call the numbers on the signs that say, We Buy Houses. Those signs are everywhere, from street corners to free newspapers, to major newspapers, etc. Call them all, tell them you will bird dog for 1,000. per ugly house, then find those houses. Remember, some will want you to point out the house and bring back address and phone of owner, others will want you to do the first walk through and basic interview of the owners/properties and turn in that exact information.

What I am telling you is what Dean tells us all. Start by calling those "We Buy Houses" Ads & Signs. Make your arrangements on what you will be paid; what you will do to get paid and the typical turn around time for the money to be paid to you if the property is something they are buying. Document every property & all information you bring to them, have them sign for the information you provide them, like you would have them sign for a package received, it's better business this way.

Seize the day my friend. Can't wait to hear of your successes.

Lisa

I was WRONG about "Value of Realtors to Investors"

lisa.blair.hathaway.author's picture

Hi Guys...

I just couldn't get the value of Realtors for Investors. So in my last post I put, "Forget the Realtors" as a recommendation. Well, I was wrong.

I just read an article on the value of Realtors to Investors and vice versa. I did not keep the link though. Should have.

So those of you who use Realtors as part of your team, chime in and tell us about the value for you as an Investor to work with a Realtor.

I apologize for having made the "Forget the Realtor" Recommendation. The Few Realtors I know of would not be interested. I obviously do not know enough of them.

Lisa

Here's the thing...

lisa.blair.hathaway.author's picture

Once you Bird Dog by interviewing the owner/property and get paid for your first one or two Bird Dogged Properties, it will suddenly dawn on you that YOU COULD HAVE INSTEAD "got that same property under contract and turned around and sold that same property TO THE EXACT SAME PEOPLE WHO YOU BIRD DOG FOR, through assignment". Now that is a beautiful moment. Your profit will be THOUSANDS of dollars greater than a bird dog fee of 1,000.

Bird Dogging is the perfect, empowering Jump Start for a new, eager Motivated, Hungry Investor. You will never regret having Bird Dogged. It will empower you, embolden you and give you the best wake up call ever when you realize "oh my god, I am doing 99% of the deal and getting paid as a bird dog instead of going 1% more and getting paid as an investor who sells & profits through Selling My Assignments.

I am cheering you on. Go for it. I especially recommend that you prepare your own contract that you in turn will have your wholesalers sign that says you will be paid 1,000. for each property you (bird dog) bring to them, that they buy.

I beg of you to not wait the two weeks you mentioned in order to get started when in reality, "you could be paid birddog profit in two weeks" for having made your calls now today "all for having signed up 5 Investors today (to bird dog for) & referred them properties today, tomorrow, the next day.

Remember, RE Investors who buy properties at wholesale typically get those properties by promising and keeping their word for doing FAST two day or FAST two week closings, which means you get paid cash in Two Days to Two Weeks for having bird dogged.

Most of all, you will be answering the prayers of Motivated Home Owners "today" who are at their wits end financially which is the best part and outweighs getting paid at all.

Seize this day.

Lisa

Hey Lisa questions regarding bird dogging

ekn2god's picture

Okay I have read alot of information on this forum about bird-dogging and I am currently reading BARM, I am just so confused b/c I just don't understand where to start. You mentioned interviewing investors to start bird-dogging for...How do you go about doing that. I also read about posting an ad on CL to gain investors to add to your investor's list....I guess I am just not getting it. I need to get started like yesterday......I just don't know what to do first. I have no money and I really need to earn money to clean up my credit and just to live. Please give me some guidance.

Starting...

lisa.blair.hathaway.author's picture

(1) Google "Birddogging" or Google "We Buy Houses" with your state in the search... go where these ads lead. Find which ads work for you. Ads are not equal in integrity so comb through them. Also go through craigs list, ebay, etc.

(2) Call the ads until you get the Buyers/Investors that you want to work with. Ask what types of properties they are interested in, what they require from you about the property, what they pay and when they pay. In one day you are going to have a hefty list of buyers to choose from. There are also virtual wholesalers who buy and sell houses on the net from anywhere in the United States.

(3) AT THE SAME TIME, locate motivated sellers through FSBO ads in papers and internet in your area. Call them. Tell them your an investor seeking specific types of properties from Motivated Sellers, Sellers who are looking sell their property as quickly as possible and is that what they are looking for and can you come talk to them.

(4) Have a blank contract handy at all times to use for that incredible moment your motivated seller actually says YES. In case you want to jump from a birddog to a investor one fine day when the deal seems right to you.

I don't know you nor your resources of people, connections, modes of travel, etc. What I do know is that this process is organic, never the same twice. You can't plan every piece and yet you can plan for the pieces that you know you are accountable for.

Make a list of what you are accountable for. Follow your own list.
A BirdDog List is different from an Assignment List which is different from a Sandwich Lease List.

You might start out bird dogging with one Investor and then find more Investors the very next day who offer you a better deal. The more the better. The tables will turn so that you can say, I have this property for sale which one of you wants it.

The more specific I am here, the more I am limiting you. The possibilities are far greater than I am listing here. To immediately birddog means getting investors to birddog for. Then you do the birddogging of actual properties, report those properties, get paid.

Hope this helps. I find going to the Success Stories here on Dean's Site is the right way to start off each day.

Lisa

Starting by Lisa

ekn2god's picture

Thank you Lisa, I really appreciate your response. I know I am paralized with fear and once I make the first step it will all fall in to place. Everything that I have read over the years while pop inside of me. I am so grateful for the entire site it is so full of people willing to share their knowledge. I will keep you posted.

Do you have a journal on the site, I will love to keep up with your flow.

It may not be fear at all, simply common sense is all

lisa.blair.hathaway.author's picture

Hi ekn2god...

With all due respect, I doubt you are not facing FEAR at all. I say you are facing COMMON SENSE instead. YOUR COMMON SENSE is telling you that you have great information; that you know enough to be excited; Enough to know you will be successful in Real Estate; that you know you need to act now AND YOU ALSO KNOW EXACTLY where you are going to come up short in a real estate conversation.

The more you read and reread the posts from these different real estate groups, the more you become familiar enough to speak Real Estate Naturally, then you can Act Naturally in a Real Estate Conversation. Your common sense is telling you that your credibility is on the line in every Real Estate Conversation. Your credibility is critical. People can spot credibility or the lack of it, a mile away.

You can count on your COMMON SENSE. As much as you need to act now, to eat now, to be successful now, get clear on the holes in your real estate knowledge so you can be in a real estate conversation with sellers. It's no different than kicking car tires while looking for a new car, gathering information, being with what is possible while enjoying the moment your in with the seller of the car. FSBO Houses deals are no different that FSBO Car Deals. Both conversations are that simple. Just make sure when the owner wants to know more of what you are offering that you can speak it and not come up short.

You are so very close. I recommend you dive into the places in your real estate knowledge that leaves you speechless and fill in the blanks. Read the newbie sections and the experienced sections.

I am cheering you on. Your common sense is a gift. If FEAR should show itself also, remember that FEAR is only possible when you take your eye off your goal.

In answer to your question, I have not started a journal. Thank you for asking.

Shine On, Lisa

Fear vs Common Sense

ekn2god's picture

Well Lisa you are so right. Today is day one I am continuing my reading in BARM and studying on the forum. I am also going to collect numbers from the "We Buy Houses" signs and other bandit signs I see posted on the streets. I am a home health nurse so I am all over the city and see plenty of signs along with FSBO and Owner Fiance signs.

I will start calling to develope my Assign list. Now is this list going to be the same as my Wholesale list?
I am not afraid to get the property under contract or nego the best deal. I believe that is on the job training to promote me into REI.

Thank you for your encouraging words. You are truly awesome.

Types of Lists, Question Unclear

lisa.blair.hathaway.author's picture

I am not clear about your question when you asked: "Is this list going to be the same as my wholesale list".

As you know, you can take a property in many different directions as far as selling... when you lock up a property via "And Or Assigns" and then assign it to another to complete, that is called wholesaling.

Be sure and ask other people here such as Rina (whose in the know) if I am not providing clear enough information to you. I am here, the same as you are to master all I can. I am happy to share information that I have already gotten clear on.

Maybe I have answered your question without knowing it. I am still unclear of what you are asking. If the Preforeclosure/foreclosure sample I provided is part of your question, then perhaps you are asking me if what I provided can be used as a wholesale list. The answer it YES.

Lisa

List questions clear

ekn2god's picture

Yes you answered my questions clearly. Thank you for your input and support. I am extremly overwhelmed and starting seems to get harder and harder but I am working on following up on the local bandit signs that I have seen in my area.

Once again thanks.

Posted

Thanks Lisa..I have been all over this place and no signs what so ever..I'll start looking in newspaper ads.
I don't know where your from, but looks like a different ball game over here.
I'll go furhter out.
Again, thankyou

"We Buy Houses California"

lisa.blair.hathaway.author's picture

I googled "We Buy Houses California" and a huge list came up for you to call. I know you said you were from Murietta, Ca. and that you saw no street signs. The good news is that you have a computer to google for the info you want.

Here's a screen capture of what I found a minute ago.

http://www.deangraziosi.com/ufiles/WeBuyHousesCaliforniaAds.jpg

It is more painful to not make these calls than to make them. You are answering everyones prayers by jumping in to help.

Lisa

SAME BALLGAME EVERYWHERE

lisa.blair.hathaway.author's picture

It's the same ballgame everywhere, guaranteed. Get Clear, Jump In.

Lisa

Current: PreForeclosures & Foreclosures Samples Here

lisa.blair.hathaway.author's picture

To Brockton, Ma. Person
To Murrietta, Ca. Person

Here are two links to todays results of PreForeclosure and Foreclosures in your areas:

Brockton, MA
In PreForeclosure: 2794
In Foreclosures: 116

http://www.deangraziosi.com/ufiles/03-08-09_BrocktonMA.jpg

Murrietta, CA.
In PreForeclosure: 8102
In Foreclosure: 3034

http://www.deangraziosi.com/ufiles/03-08-09_MurrietaCA.jpg

Just seeing these numbers should give you a great big boost. For those of you who see no signs, all the better to start putting up your own signs. List your number in free papers if you do not have cash to pay for a listing.

Lisa

Proof of Funds letter

How do I go about getting a proof of funds letter for an REO deal?

Here's two sources of Proof Of Funds

lisa.blair.hathaway.author's picture

Hi mberriosinc...

Coastal Funding is highly recommended here on Dean's Site. Here's a Proof of Fund Link for them. They have an excellent website.

http://www.coastal-funding.com/pof.html

Also, Google these words... "Proof Of Funds Letter" and a whole page shows up of links and of videos explaining the process and the purpose of obtaining a Proof of Funds Letter.

Go forth and Prosper Well...

Lisa

Wholesaling...

kbeem298's picture

Hi Lisa, I am new to Real estate investing and just ordered Dean's books a couple days ago. I don't have money or credit to work with but after reading your posts I think I would like to try wholesaling. From what I understood its practically the same amount of work as bird dogging but potential for greater profit. Am I correct? if not please get me on track. I am really nervous about getting started since I'm kinda young and taking this on alone but VERY motivated to make profit and be a success story. I lost my job in a metal shop so now Ill have a lot of time to put toward my goals although there is no money coming in currently. Is wholesaling something I would be able to do as brand new to this? Let me know my best options and if you need to know more information. I was just looking at these posts and like the idea.

Thank you!!!

Kyle

6 of 1, Half Dozen of the other

lisa.blair.hathaway.author's picture

Hi kbeem298...

I highly recommend you complete Deans book and dive into the aspect of Real Estate that motivates you the most, the one you are more clear on, the one you can sink your teeth into. Master it, Perfect it and you will increasingly get just as excited about all other aspects of Real Estate Investing.

The type of investing you will profit from is literally 6 of 1, Half Dozen of the other. It's personal preference. What makes wholesaling a breeze is having Cash Buyers lined up. If you do not yet have Cash Buyers as resources around you now, build a list of them today.

The bottom line is, People buy from People they can count on in the same way People sell through People they can count on. There is no way around it, this business is all about relationships.

You can simultaneously Birddog and Wholesale Houses...

With BIRD DOGGING you know you have a source of money coming in from the agreement you set up to birddog for a company(s).

With WHOLESALING you still Birddog and yet you keep the deal for yourself to sell directly to an End Buyer that you have a private list of.

Without END BUYERS already in hand you may end up Birddogging longer until you have a buyer(s) lined up.

You are going to love this process.

Lisa

New Also

I'm new and in the same situtation with no credit and no money. I found a good realtor but the problem is that she specializes in foreclosures for her firm and they all require proof of funds. Her attitude is that of putting in a low ball bid so that part is ok but not the rest. Thanks for the suggestions on getting started. I found business cards at Visual Business cards I think the program was $19.95 and it has worked good for me.

What a bummer, You don't sound happy

lisa.blair.hathaway.author's picture

Hi Betz...

My heart goes out to you. There are plenty of fish in the sea. You found one Realtor that seems to give you 1/2 or less of what you want. Keep interviewing more Realtors. Find the one that really, really works for you. You can do this, I know it.

Lisa